Requests to one another

To User:AvionHerbert

• Could you take a look at the page on patent agency Dupont et Elluin? I tried to thread together some details. Is there any other information source? We don't need to do a great job here but I have a mild interest in when these firms started, what they did, who worked there, how many worked there, when they started and shut down. Something may be on French wikipedia or somewhere, and I'm hoping you can specialize in this.

(The "Publicités anciennes" blog does look like a great resource.) (I do recall some information along the above lines, quantity of employees and so forth, and will try to recover the specs, and expand into other firms from there. Meanwhile, the attempt is leading to some other material of "organization" note, German and otherwise.)

• please reflect on how to make an icon for the upper left on this site, perhaps with a glider and/or balloon. It has to look okay at this scale: The Wikipedia logo -- peter
• Do you know the meaning/context of the second entry in CdB for Patent FR-1873-97664? (image on the page there) LTA (talk) 20:50, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

To User:Econterms

• I'm creating Chemische Fabrik Griesheim-Elektron, as an organization, which I think is proper, but to have it, and similar cases, link, back out, to the patents for which it or they are listed as "inventor", or "applicant person", would be ideal.
• Henry Deutsch de la Meurthe is some great material on a key industrialist. There are some non-per-se-inventor page template challenges.
• Does it make sense to create a template for aircraft? (Or, one for LTA and one for Airplanes?) Asking because many sources give regular data on aircraft, often with intent for comparison. And serially incorporating these into prose may not be the best format. LTA fields: length, maximum diameter, volume, gas type, engine type, horsepower, rpm, speed (average, maximum known, both), weight, (total &/or net) lifting power. Airplane fields: length, wingspan, engine type, horsepower, rpm, speed, weight, lifting power. (Some fancier stats are possible also.) LTA 14:35, July 3, 2017 (EDT)
• When an engineer advertises under his own name... e.g. Lucien Chauvière, Joseph-Michel-Ambroise Farcot, sometimes it's not clear whether he's doing business as a corporation with a separate name. Case Thomas S. Baldwin / Baldwin's Vulcanized Proof Material is intermediate. Case Établissements Robert Esnault-Pelterie is clearly a company with its own name. In the first two ambiguous cases, there are telephone numbers, addresses, and other features which might lend to treating them as businesses (organizations?). But maybe this is unnecessary for our purpose. This might be a comment/brainstorm as much as a request. LTA (talk) 19:57, January 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Another comment: notice, when 'cleaning up' a patent entry from the old spreadsheet, that tech fields can disappear in the process of 'editing with form' because they don't fit into the date format. Unrelatedly: "assigned to" is now a list field rather than a single string, to accommodate multiple assignees; however there is still the issue of how to deal with fractions and locations as part of the text. LTA (talk) 05:22, April 30, 2018 (UTC)
• Research Patent FR-1845-253 at advanced-research-page of INPI and add anything it has, and try to snapshot the original doc. Can get a reasonable-sized file? -- econterms
• To do: address all cases where applicant is Toshiba ; these probably draw from some later transaction. The search: [1] ; maybe create a Toshiba page to explain the issue ; mark these as source data errors somehow
• To do: record about inpi and depatisnet ; continue fixing the Lehmann patents which have the wrong name from the Lil museum site
• Any reason not to do a find-replace from

{{Patents of inventor|{{PAGENAME}}}} {{Compact letters received|{{PAGENAME}}}} {{Compact letters sent|{{PAGENAME}}}}

to

{{Standard person reports}}

? Would affect several hundred pages. LTA (talk) 00:05, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Good plan! I launched the mass update/replacement. -- Econterms (talk) 23:14, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Done

• When find-replace comes back, replace "Goodyear 11 (1919)" with "[[Free Ballooning, 1919|Goodyear (1919)]], p. [https://archive.org/stream/goodyeararonaut00ballgoog#page/n18/mode/2up 11]" -- done I think. now checking.
  • The Goodyear 11 search/replace got stuck somewhere; I have launched it again. -- Econterms (talk) 23:17, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
• Did we reach a conclusion (or hypothesis) about the possibility of automatically generating Google Patent links for US patents? The URL is simple but we don't quite know how to generate it on each page from article name or patent number field. For now I'm adding them manually but seeking an automated method might be worth it. LTA (talk) 00:54, October 7, 2017 (UTC) -- Yup, use
• Patent #### document and bibliographic info on espacenet
• Patent #### at google patents

To User:LTA

• I love what you're doing here: Patent GB-1897-3608. Lanchester knew Chanute from the 1893 conference I believe, along probably with other ways. There may be letters between them. And Christine Macleod is an important author in this area -- I even have her book but have not read much of it -- and I'm glad if you can draw from her work. -- Econterms (talk) 18:03, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Haven't yet seen the patent itself; would be a good one to get ahold of. There may be an actual reprint in Aeronautical Journal but so far I've only seen an index-type listing. LTA (talk) 02:34, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
• I'm glad you've figured out how to edit Templates and Forms. I'm ruminating about changes to the Organization table. I want to get rid of the fields Address, Cable address, and Phone. We'll keep this info as text but I don't think it helps to add them as expected elements in the table, it just distracts and eats up space. The reason they're there is that one source had them as elements in a table. I'm starting that process by clearing out those columns, although this isn't strictly necessary to do first. Later, when this is done, I want to split off a data type for Firm or Company, away from Organization. Then we can more easily get separate data on manufacturers from clubs. These steps are probably easy but the syntax is intimidating so let's think them over first. -- Econterms (talk) 13:53, May 13, 2018 (UTC)
• Do you remember your sources for Patent CH-1891-3863? Did you find it on espacenet? I'm trying to puzzle out two similar and possibly identical Steigers. - econterms